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Dromio05 showed me several posts he deemed questionable since Reddit took away his own mod badge. For example, this post shares a link to an article about “rebel canners,” which Dromio05 argues “gives a public platform to people who openly encourage methods and recipes that are known to be unsafe, like canning milk and open kettle canning.” The post is labeled unsafe, but Dromio05 would have removed the link to the article.
Another cited example is this recipe for canned sauce. It includes already-canned tomatoes, which experts like the National Center for Home Food Preservation (NCHFP) recommend against, as there’s no safe tested process for this. The recipe also includes nuts, though the USDA doesn’t have any recommendations for canning nuts, and NCHFP and other experts advise against canning any nuts besides green peanuts.
No comment. Moderators are the key to Reddit’s success, and they have been treated like shit and will continue to be treated like shit.
Jesus. I can from time to time, I used to be a regular on /r/canning. The attention to detail re food safety was one of the best things about the sub, as you really can kill yourself and others if you piss about.
Botulism is nothing to fuck around with. I’d rather play with something safe like burning thermite than that stinky crap ever again.
Botulism has no smell, taste or colour change though.
Won’t someone think of the poor landed gentry!?
How did volunteers who run reddit’s for-profit business for them for free end up equated with landed gentry?
I think you’re responding to a half-assed attempt at sarcasm. It was spez who originally called mods landed gentry.
Maybe so! Always hard to say with the range of opinions I see on the internet these days
That’s a really good question to ask Reddit’s CEO as he is the one who said that.
I’m certainly not defending spez and I wholeheartedly agree that this business model is daft, but with all that said… for every responsible dedicated knowledgeable reddit mod, there’s a dozen who find fulfilment in being fief lords.
It was all fun and games until reddit threatened to de-mod them, then suddenly “for the good of the community” they decided that bending over was the only option.
Wow! Who knew when you kick your volunteer mods who curate content for you for free to the curb that overall quality would decrease?
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I hate what Reddit is doing, but I also hate your casual homophobia. Aren’t you sure, you would be a better fit for Reddit than the fediverse?
Did they edit their post and lemmy glitch out? The comment is 4m old, but your reply is 6m. There’s no marking that it’s been edited either, so something’s wrong.
My comment is nowhere to be found now
I am posting from kbin, it shows me that their post is 25 minutes to my 10 minutes ago.
Weird. I’m using Jerbao from lemmy.world.
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I know multiple queer people who use “faggot” in a way that lets them take ownership of the word rather than allow it to be a slur. But importantly, there’s context to them saying it that makes it clear it’s not a slur. It’ll be among friends who know them well enough, or on dating profiles/kink websites where it’s abundantly clear from how they use it and everything else they’ve written that it’s them reclaiming the word.
Your comment doesn’t have that context. You’re an anonymous stranger in a thread filled with anonymous strangers, and there’s nothing about your comment that implies you’re not using the word as a slur. In fact, the way you used it was as a pejorative. It comes off as offensive and inappropriate.
Uh. Let’s not use the f slur shall we?
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I mean the article is just former mods repeating what you’re saying, it’s not like they’re reporting anything new happening. Also includes some examples of stuff that is ultimately irrelevant for reddit as a platform, such as canning and electric garage doors.
Also includes some examples of stuff that is ultimately irrelevant for reddit as a platform, such as canning and electric garage doors.
That stuff absolutely is relevant, because having the right info for those things is crucial, because acting on the wrong info can literally kill you.
The reason why Reddit content is valued so highly by users (and search engines) is because it was seen to have some level of curation to it, due to the efforts of the volunteer moderators who took their “job” seriously. They felt that it was vitally important to weed out dangerous info. And that basic safety effort is likely all that is saving Reddit from a massive lawsuit once someone tries to fix their garage door the wrong way and dies.
It’s like Reddit made a list of things that sane companies do to protect their brand and reputation, and made a point of doing the exact opposite.
I dont know how to break this to you but there has always been a LOT of incorrect bullshit on Reddit, and it’s always done just fine.
If the Boston Bombing didn’t do the platform in, canning surely wont.
If a single one of those niche subreddits disappears, the site will be fine. So, sure, you can argue they’re individually irrelevant to Reddit as a platform, I guess. But Reddit having a vast collection of niche subreddits is what keeps the platform alive. Do you think people would be nearly as engaged in the long term if it was only world news, politics and memes? Those broad categories are going to have the widest appeal but they’re not what a lot of people stay for. They stay so they can discuss their favourite TV show, the specific game they’re playing right now, the niche hobby they’re interested in, the particular celebrity they’re weirdly obsessed with, that incredibly specific kind of porn that gets them off.
And there’s a reason a lot of people add “reddit” to the end of their Google searches - there are all kinds of niche subreddits with information they’re looking for about a particular issue they’re having right now. If I’m having issues with my electric garage door, having a high-quality, well-maintained forum dedicated to the subject - filled with experts and knowledgeable enthusiasts - is exactly what I need, and Reddit had that.
Memes might have a broader appeal and be more monetisable right now, but losing all the niche subfora is something that will hurt Reddit in the long term.
Imagine the website being famous for its niche information becomes the place with “only bad information on it”
God it’s almost like he did this shit on purpose.
It’s relevant for Reddit as a home for niche topics, but maybe they’re not interested in being that anymore
Yeah it’s a weird article. “There’s some misinformation on the internet!”
To be fair, the content quality on Lemmy has been about the same from what I’ve seen.
Bots all over the place, low-effort quips instead of discussions bubbling up, lots and LOTS of low-quality armchairing, personal attacks and flaming instead of actual discussion…etc
It was good for a month or so during the reddit 3rd party app purge, but quickly went downhill.
My experience has been almost nothing but positive. A few snarky replies, but 99% positivity and good discourse otherwise.
I think it’s a bit of both. Content itself is pretty lacking tbh - and I say this as someone who hasn’t exactly contributed any quality content, but I have definitely enjoyed the overall community, it reminds me a lot of reddit 10 years ago tbh.
Stay out of the political subs if you want to keep it that way.
That’s just a good general tip for the internet: avoid politics and religion.
And something people have forgotten since the old days of forums: don’t feed the trolls.
That’s a given on any forum
That’s true of pretty much anywhere in life.
Yea but like Lemmy is a bunch of hobbyists running on donations. That’s not saying much for Reddit.
I haven’t had anything remotely like this when sticking to my subscribed communities.
I’m on lemmy.ca on a bunch of Canadian communities and it’s not like that at all.
Yes some communities have been under attack by bots and people posting CSAM but otherwise it’s been pretty civil.
Did you try some of the smaller instances? Big instances will inevitably face the same problems that Reddit has/had. A platform is as good as it’s users, and you can only moderate up to a certain point untill it becomes straight up censorship. Sadly more people also means more trolls and shitposters.
But yeah it’s still annoying and I fully agree with what you said.
God the quips became so popular and incessant it was really annoying. The comment used to be a good source of relevant information and there were some really funny people in there but now it seems to be drowned out by the same one liners or bots.
I very specifically don’t experience this but maybe that’s because I’m using sync and have deliberately blocked bots from showing up in my feed.
How do you block bots using Sync?
This is actually a feature of Lemmy. If you open Lemmy and sign into your account in the browser you can go to content settings and there’s a box you can uncheck for show bot accounts. Be aware this is all bot accounts even helpful ones line automods and such and it will affect the bota that autopost from Reddit as well. You’ll see a downturn in traffic. But I thought it was worth the trouble.
I agree with this. There’s some problems that need to be addressed. Hopefully sooner rather than later
Truthfully hexbear has a lot to do with it. Could use a fediverse purge of that level of shitposting
No, Hexbear for all its intensity is very specific and limited to how they act and disrupt. There’s tons of reddit-esque comments on lemmy coming from all the sites that aren’t from Hexbear or Lemmygrad users.
I’d say .world has been the most reddit-like for me. Overall it’s still good here but I’m also looking forward to it simmering down for a while.
I haven’t actually noticed hexbear at all and I’m on an instance that isn’t defed
the anonymous Redditor pointed me to the subreddit’s sidebar, which has a disclaimer about the dangers of electricity. However, the disclaimer is only visible on old Reddit. The mod doesn’t know why.
Wow this is the part that made me laugh the most. One of the first things I learned when as a mod was that you had to change the side bar in both old.reddit and the newer version since they both have different sidebars.
I never even realized that the loss of whole mod teams could make this simple feature unknown by the new team.
Well yeah, when reddit just picks up whatever volunteers yell loudest, they don’t exactly get experienced mods. Those people all left reddit already.
There are a huge amount of redditors these days who have no idea old reddit ever existed and the first time they heard of 3rd party apps was when Reddit announced they were pricing them out of existence. Naturally, a lot of those people are going to become mods now and their ignorance about fundamental aspects of the site is glaring.
This is only tangentially related but I started using reddit 13 years ago and the userbase has become increasingly unrecognizable in recent years. But what makes me truly feel like a dinosaur is seeing six month old accounts refer to reddit as “an app”… It’s bizarre to me that so many people’s exposure to reddit is limited to the worst way to possibly use the platform (the official app).
I remember Reddit 13 years ago and it really was a different place. The whole calling it an app was something that annoyed me too lol.
I also still remember my first reddit experience was BaconReader on the Windows 7 phone lmfao. I’m old.
Tons of mods don’t know, as all of the sidebars on old.reddit of many newer subs are blank
And that’s the problem right there.
Reddit shat away the experienced people and gave the reigns to brown-nosers
Meh, that’s their problem. I’m sure the subreddit I used to mod has been shut down. It was dead anyway. CTCD, but few remember the stupid dog
haha
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I also have the feeling that the comments started to suck a lot more. It’s starting to feel like comments on Youtube or Instagram, not like real people having a somewhat reasonable discussion about the topic.
Yep, interactions are definitely becoming more toxic. Indeed it starts to feel like youtube. I adopted Reddit at fisrt because of how friendly the community felt. That was 8-9 years ago and that time is clearly gone. Lemmy is nice, I hope it will keep growing.
Anecdotal, but I’ve personally noticed a lot more open hostility in comment sections. I’m noticing that it’s starting to make me feel like I felt when I still had Instagram and FB: Lousy.
So I’m now making a conscious effort to use it less and hopefully stop it all together, one day.
If it can be a front of the culture war, it will become one. Society has polarized, and so, in turn, has public discourse.
I’ve noticed YouTube comments have actually become more positive (though still mostly useless). It seems YouTube has implemented some algorithm where it prioritizes “positive” sentiment comments above all. That’s why all the top comments on popular videos are generic platitudes.
For example, go on any MrBeast video and read the top comments. They are all praising MrBeast for his videos and hard work. Finding any negative comment is difficult. On the other hand, if you go on a Reddit discussion about MrBeast, you’ll find plenty of people complaining about him.
MrBeast is just an example, I’m sure we all have our own opinions about him but that’s not the point I’m trying to make. In fact, the same is true for any popular YouTube channel. Even political channels, where you’d expect to see heated debates in the comments, mostly showcase top comments agreeing with the video.
This video’s comments, YT had no good comments to push to the top
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Yep. I was casually talking about which country to move to for getting a master’s in a computer science-related field and I got lambasted just because I mentioned that I graduated from fine arts, despite that I’ve explicitly mentioned that I was going to move away from that field anyway and that the programs I plan to move to allow undergraduates from any background.
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because it’s just made to make you upset somehow. the cynical nature of reddit is x100 now
Wow, ive been away for a bit. I heard AITA is gone sour, (rspash havn a good time i guess) what else?
Look at the quality of mods they’re getting.
The r/diving subreddit got a mod who claim to be an avid diver with 21 dives across 7 oceans. And the subreddit drama link
That mod is hardcore powertripping, lol. Why do people get so puffed up for being essentially forum janitors? At least 4chan mods could take it on the chin when the community made fun of them. Reddit mods have the thinnest skin and the arbitration skills of Judge Dredd.
I got irritated with the asshole mods on AITH and gave myself a new alt aita_mods_are_all_incels. They really really didn’t like that, some incel girl mod actually sent a message saying she’s not and deleted it.
Fucking tools the lot of them.
One day, I had to tell someone that they should research pet safety before giving other people pet safety advice. This person was recommending people to feed their dogs things that are well known to seriously poison and harm them. Apparently, according to that person, all dogs can eat anything because their grandma’s one dog was fine.
I responded with links showing that the food was in fact harmful, and a lovely mod banned me for “arguing”. It filled me with rage. Not because I was banned, but because the OG misinformation was still up, but all of the corrections were removed. Other people’s comments correcting it were removed, too. Fuck accurate information intended to keep pets safe, I guess.
I hope that the random people who saw the post looked it up before trusting that person.
Reddit went from “I append site:reddit.com when querying google for well-founded and nuanced info” to the opposite.
That user is the alt of a well-known troll. They know exactly what they’re doing.
I’m still not convinced that the /r/diving mod wasn’t trolling the admins with that post.
It’s Esne. They were.
Probably the best written article I’ve read on this subject. All concerning things in the article that Reddit absolutely doesn’t care about. Canning milk? What the fuck.
Edit: I forgot that condensed milk is a thing…wondering if people can make it at home?
Mmm. Nothing I like more than a 5-year-old can of milk.
Ah yes, the 2018. That’s a good vintage. Aromas of pestilence and disease overwhelm the nose. An enticing menagerie of dumpster and botulism coats the palette with a subtle finish of garlic sharts lingering between sips. A pronounced effervescence from years of fermentation leaves a most pleasant mouthfeel. 95/100
Would that technically be a delayed action grenade?
Chemical warfare agent for sure
I always buy dehydrated/condensed milk in cans, is that not normal?
Oh I’m dumb lol…can you do that yourself?
Yes you can. Take milk, simmer for an hour. Thats basically it
Edit: step 3 would be NOT canning it. Keep it in the fridge like a normal person.
Take milk, simmer for an hour. Thats basically it
I feel like you’re one of the people this article is talking about.
Dromio05 showed me several posts he deemed questionable since Reddit took away his own mod badge. For example, this post shares a link to an article about “rebel canners,” which Dromio05 argues “gives a public platform to people who openly encourage methods and recipes that are known to be unsafe, like canning milk and open kettle canning.” The post is labeled unsafe, but Dromio05 would have removed the link to the article.
Now there’s a difference between cooking and canning.
You can safely make sweetened condensed milk in the home kitchen. What you can’t do is safely preserve it.
Safe: I want to make a key lime pie tonight, I’ve got my limes, I’ve got a pie crust, I’ve got my eggs…no sweetened condensed milk. Grocery store is closed too. Okay, but I’ve got milk and sugar, so I’ll just mix some sugar and milk in a saucepan and simmer it down, then I’ll use that to make my pie tonight.
Unsafe: I’m going to make a big ol’ batch of sweetened condensed milk, pour it into mason jars, boil 'em for ten minutes and put them in the cupboard so that it’s ready whenever I want a key lime pie.
There’s LOTS of stuff that’s safe to cook and eat immediately that’s not safe to put in jars on the shelf.
Thanks, I think I misunderstood the above, I thought they were saying you could make canned at home.
Never knew what was in key lime pie (it’s not much of a thing here), so that’s cool to know!
It’s not all that hard to make; you may have to substitute ordinary limes for key limes as they can be difficult to find in most of the world but you should give it a try.
I think you can make sweetened condensed milk at home but not safely preserve it. Have you noticed there’s no shelf stable normal milk? There’s no dairy products on the shelf on the Welch’s aisle. Even given industrial equipment, the best you can do is evaporated milk.
I’ve noticed a huge increase of ragebait AITA posts every time I check the front page. They’re all pretty similar - disowning a child or deciding not to attend a wedding. And people fall for it every time. It’s kind of sad to see one of the smartest places on the internet turn into social media junk food.
The people replying might be bots too.
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Umm, reddit readers, most never even acknolaging the exodus situation publically, began to really bug me. Knowing this, your words now stronger than ever throw into question their nature because:
people fall for it every time
That likely means both audences and creators. AITA is almost completely hyperreal now. Few non fictional interactions exist anymore. Was it always like this?
I can’t put my finger on it, but I think there’s been an uptick also in posts purely in the form of increasing engagement. Safe ‘bets’ on getting responses (i.e. ++ to AskReddit), remarkably bland headlines, and just shit that reminds me of controversy of the “jumpstart” of automated bots they used in the earlier days.
A lot of suspicious “wholesome” posts on all, too. Seems like an astroterf to make the whole thing more digestible.
I’ve been half turn between blaming spez for that, trying to keep “engagement” numbers up so he can IPO and walk, vs blaming karma bots. And then I thought, “Why not both?”
Pretty sure one of the new (announced?) changes is that people will be able to get money from being popular enough. Encouraging “engagement” and karma farming over actually using the site as a human.
My understanding is that that’s an expansion of reddit’s earlier cryptocurrency effort, where users in like 3 subreddits could earn reddit moon tokens. Which is nice and all, but it’s about as reliable as any other cryptocurrency; it follows reddit’s usual policy of never giving out anything of real value and making other people do the work; and since they’re “awarding” it themselves, that means they have the main stash of moons in hand and they’re the ones who will “win big” if moons ever takes off.
Accounts I don’t regret deleting:
Facebook
Twitter
Reddit
Add Instagram to the list.
Pixelfed is already better than Instagram, anyway!
My weed dealer uses insta so I have an account
WELL I FOR ONE AM SHOCKED!
absolutely shocked! who could seen that coming?
shocked! who could seen that coming?
Someone using old.reddit who can still see the sidebar warning?
I’ve been a redditor for ~14 years and knew reddit was dead ever since they scapegoated ellen pao to make a bunch of shitty changes. And the only reason I’ve been able to use reddit this long was old.reddit. They are so insistent on change for the sake of change, and change for the sake of satisfying investors and advertisers. They don’t give an iota of a fuck about their actual users.
You know how spez was bitching that reddit never turned a profit? I’ve said before it’s his fault for never understanding reddit. Reddit’s treasures are it’s community and it’s commentary. Instead of focusing on those, he’s spent tens, maybe hundreds of millions, trying to force reddit into the latest techbro fad - reddit crypto or reddit NFTs or whatever. And then he absolutely fucking panicked once he realized that he’d paid for multiple AI companies to make off with multiple entire copies of one of reddit’s treasures (which probably cost tens of millions in itself), and then alienated it’s other treasure when he kept doubling down in his panic.
Yeah. Putting all the effort into useless stuff like NFTs, crypto, or really even the whole terrible New Reddit into first making the actual experience better would have been much better. Make people pay for your awesome features after you actually have awesome features.
Instead, they made the user experience worse and worse, and repeatedly broke the tools people used to make it convenient. Not to mention all the bots and bribing mods to promote Subreddits…
Perhaps New Reddit was supposed to be their big break. Too bad it sucks so badly.
I still can’t believe they paid they much for Alien Blue, just to deliberately go out of their way to make it so much worse.
“I’m shocked, SHOCKED! Well not that shocked.”
Good. Fuck Reddit.
I know we all are in rage about reddit’s fuckery, but this says nothing about the state of the website.
we already knew reddit was not the objective truth or wikipedia, but mostly an echo chamber. incrementing the check on the information objectivity will NOT hamper reddit’s growth. we’ve already seen other social media thrive without the weight of fact-checking or their intended purpose (facebook, instagram, I’d dare to say the new twitter as well).
I as all of you would love to see reddit bomb so badly that they’ll all end unemployed and spez under a bridge sleeping with cardboard sheets, but that’s not going to happen soon.
we should stop looking at how badly is reddit doing, and start watching at how to make Lemmy a better reddit instead.
I don’t even think about Reddit anymore. Let it fade into obscurity.
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This. The whole circlejerk about how much better Lemmy is and how people are so glad they left reddit is getting really old, really fast. Meanwhile, any interesting post that would be normally spur fervent and meaningful discussion on reddit has maybe a dozen comments on Lemmy, most of them low effort. Heck, this exact same article on reddit’s r/technology has 10x more comments and way more total engagement.
The spam and toxicity here are the same as on reddit with a different tone. Lemmy is just another echo chamber with a different coat of paint, and the only differences are a lack of ads and way less people and diversity to interact with.
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Yea. I felt like the article was just nitpicking about not much change at all. Just past mods reminiscing? The nut graph of the write up was not great to begin with and the body wasn’t really news…
Turns out purges make everything shittier
