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    Honestquestion: can she be tried in court for publicly calling people.yo commit crimes?

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        …seriously, the guy’s out there trying to build clean energy and transportation infrastructure but optimus keeps showing up with his gang of hooligans just to f*ck sh*t up…

        #OptimusPrimeIsATotalDick

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    Poll workers totally won’t realize the same person voted ten times.

    And it’s totally feasible to register in 10 different places and drive to them all and wait in line 10 times in a single day.

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      And definitely not something that will attract government attention when you’re repeatedly registering, no sir.

      For that matter, when I was a poll worker, we had a computerized system, even though we did paper ballots, which noted when someone had already received a ballot regardless of where in the state they received it.

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        And to swing most elections they’d have to have dozens or scores of people doing it in a bunch of geographically adjacent districts.

        She’s about as dim as her son.

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      I mean, it’s still stupid as hell to do.

      But as to your second point, it absolutely astounds me how many people seem to be completely unaware that early voting is very much a thing for like weeks before election day. Why would they need to do it in a single day?

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      It’s really not that wild, many legal immigrants want to pull the ladder up behind them.

      Source: am married to an immigrant and work with several. All of them seem to like Trump’s immigration policies for some reason…

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        Class and race are the issues. Rich, white Immigrants? Sure, that’s them. They’re fine with more. Poor or non-white? No way.

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          Which is ironic IMO, because it’s the poor, non-white immigrants that build this country from the ground up. They take the jobs we don’t want, which keeps our prices low so our better educated citizens can take better jobs. Then after a generation or two, those poor immigrants’ descendants will be the ones taking the better jobs.

          We need a constant stream of people willing to take the crappy jobs we don’t want, especially if we want to bring manufacturing back to this country. So I really don’t understand why conservatives want to simultaneously encourage more factories here and discourage low-cost labor.

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            My analysis is that Republicans want immigrants to be marginalized so they are more able to take advantage of them for labor. If someone was a legal immigrant or had protections, it’s harder to pay them low wages, have no medical or workers comp, hire and fire at will, avoid payroll taxes, and unsafe working conditions… all of which are very dear things to Republicans.

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        I honestly can’t wrap my head around this. If I emigrated elsewhere to flee this shit-show, I would absolutely help other people cross whatever borders I did.

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          Conservatives think that some people are just better than others and, surprise surprise, they’re near the top of the “natural hierarchy”.

          “I’m an immigrant, but I’m not like those other immigrants because I don’t [Republican stereotype of immigrants]”

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            Democrats often display they same intolerance towards republicans though. Both parties have a habit of attacking rather than supporting. I thought this election might be different with the democrats, and I think its improved, but they still fight in the mud far too often for my liking.

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              That’s funny, because I would have said the exact opposite; Democrats have been taking the “they go low, we go high” approach for far too long, and it has historically allowed republicans to blatantly lie while remaining almost entirely unchecked. By this point, denying reality is an engrained part of conservative culture. This election is the first time in recent memory that I have seen democrats actually stop pulling punches and start blatantly accusing the republicans of lying.

              And honestly, it’s a welcome change. “The tolerant left” was a term coined by the right, to be able to cry when liberals called them out for intolerance. Democrats have finally started ignoring the crocodile tears and calling them out for what they are.

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                Its a matter of perspective in my opinion. From my groups perspective, they usually do go high. From other groups perspectives, its rare they do. Its unfortunate democrats have taken advantage of so many groups of people, that’s what I mean by going low. They have gone low with republicans, and they have gone low with third party voters and uncommitted voters as well. They have tried to take the high road in most other places it seems though, which actually wasn’t the norm. Anti-corporate policy is relatively new.

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                  How is that relatively new? I’m pushing 40 and since long before my lifetime it’s been democrats supporting unions, breaking monopolies, and placing regulations on industry.

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                  It’s a matter of actually knowing each parties stance and voting records. Not anything to do with perspective.

                  Do you agree with the way representatives have voted and bills they’ve supported?

                  Or do you only care about “perspective”?

                  Or are you just a month old account that only talks about voting for Jill Stein?

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          Immigrants are by definition people who left their culture for another. Why would they want to make it easier for others?

          If I made it out of the US to Spain, the last thing I want is a bunch more Americans coming with me

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            Ive helped several Americans join me in my new home, from helping with first steps, picking up from the airport, getting cellphones set up, advice on how to get settled, introducing to new people etc. If they’re leaving the US and moving them and their families across an ocean, they’re more aligned with my preferred culture than the one we fled. I was met with nothing but acceptance and kindness when I reached out to locals when I was moving and as I arrived, so if anything, that’s the culture I’m trying to assimilate into.

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          Here’s the thought process:

          1. it was really hard to get into this country
          2. if we make it easier to come here, that nullifies the work I did

          A similar argument applies to a lot of other things, for example:

          • student loan forgiveness - I paid my student loans (or worked to avoid them), why should others get a pass?
          • mortgage assistance - I saved to be able to afford a home, why should others skip that step?

          A lot of people attribute this to selfishness, but I think it’s closer to jealousy. I have two kids who share a bedroom, and if I reward them equally for cleaning up when one did 90% of the work, that doesn’t seem fair to the one that did the most work, even if they’re older and more capable. I think that’s pretty similar to what’s happening here.

          That said, I personally am in favor of much more open borders, and I’d like to get to a point where we don’t have quotas or anything and people can come as they please. My ideal is a quick stop at the border to fill out a form (i.e. temporary work authorization), then perhaps monthly digital reports about job status, and then a longer-term authorization once you can prove employment (or at least financial stability). We have a huge backlog, so in the meantime I’d like to simplify the paperwork and increase the quotas until that backlogged demand is exhausted.

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    And every fucking time it’s been proven in court, it’s been a Republican that did it.

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    I demand you stop calling her Megatron, that is way too cool of a nickname for that woman.

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    We live in a world that if you call someone an idiot or violate some other arbitrary rule you get banned, but if you spread dangerous lies you usually are fine and rarely see a consequence

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    She’s just prepping some Rs to think that faking votes is easy so they’ll be more accepting of the idea that the election was stolen when Trump loses. As a bonus she also makes it seem like the R party is the one stopping this fictional fraud.

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      It’s very clear that these people legitimately do not understand how voter registration works on even the most basic level.

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      That and creating voter fraud instances so that they can call the whole thing a sham and kick the inevitable case to the SCOTUS, whom will kick it then to the house. I believe this is the plan to get Trump the win.

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    Do they not realize how annoying and hard it is for the average person to vote just once during an election?

    People don’t have that much free time.

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      This is why I love mail voting.

      1. receive ballot in mail
      2. fill it out
      3. mail it (must pay postage) or drop it off at a ballot box sometime in the 2-weeks before the election

      I have never actually voted in-person, I just don’t have the time for that.

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        Here I’d have to insert between step 2 and 3 “get it notarized”, here ballots don’t count if mailed in without a notary.

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          That’s really weird. In my state, the only signature that matters is the voter’s, and the voter can track their ballot though every stage of the vote counting process. I forget what it looks like exactly, but I think there’s an option for someone to sign if they’re helping the person fill it out.

          I personally drop mine off at the ballot box because I feel like it’s safer (and I don’t want to pay for a stamp).

          Requiring a notary to sign would probably be considered illegal voter suppression and potentially considered a “poll tax” (because you’d essentially need a bank account to get access to a notary).

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            Guessing they would state that if you had no access to a notary, voting in person is still allowed (with a valid state issued photo id)

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              Then the counter is that some people can’t reasonably get to a polling station, either due to work schedules, disability, etc, except at significant cost.

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            Voting in person has no such restriction. Though now you need a valid state instead 6 photo id…

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        I’ve voted in person a few times. But I absolutely prefer mail in. I can calmly, quietly, and thoroughly look through the options on the ballot. In person I feel rushed and judged.

        Every part of it is better with mail in ballot.

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          Exactly! I do it in front of my computer where I can research candidates and issues. If I went to a polling station, I wouldn’t have the time to do that research. I tend to spend 30 min or more on my ballot, even though I’m pretty sure I can accurately predict the results of the election before even looking at the ballot (in my area, the R will win; if it’s not a partisan office, the incumbent will win; if it’s a yes/no, it’ll be yes, unless it’s something I actually want, in which case no).

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            (in my area, the R will win; if it’s not a partisan office, the incumbent will win; if it’s a yes/no, it’ll be yes, unless it’s something I actually want, in which case no).

            I’m not in quite a red area, but I feel your pain

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      Less than 20 minutes on average for me. That is, 20 minutes from leaving home, walking to the nearest voting place, voting, and walking back. Added about 5 minutes or so when part of my work commute.

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    That wouldn’t even fucking work, lol. You need, at minimum, a proof of address, and even if you spoofed 10 different names and addresses that each corresponded to 10 specific precincts, you’re going to be given a provisional ballot, in which case your vote doesn’t even get counted until it has been independently researched and verified by county workers, which if it succeeds, won’t get counted till a week later.

    God. I fucking hate that these idiots have a non-zero chance of winning.

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    Do these people think real life is a fucking game? At this point I’m convinced repoblicans are delusional

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      That’s the result of being rich and not knowing what consequences are.

      Imaging touching a hot plate and not burning yourself. What incentive would there be to not touch that plate?

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      When you have enough money and power to avoid experiencing the vast majority of consequences of your actions, then life does become a game for the vast majority of the time.

      The reluctance of governments to take action against the rich and powerful just feeds their delusions further.

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      Do these people think real life is a fucking game?

      Yes. And that they have to ‘win’. And that the consequences for other people ‘don’t matter’.

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      Well if it wasn’t there would be consequences for this shit. As far as their concerned it’s all just theater until there’s a judge involved. And let’s be honest here. They’re basically right at this point.