One sane voice amongst the madness:
I’m pretty sure everyone from Israel is still allowed. Double moral of the west, once again.
I’m worried. Israel has a history of compromising public goods to be used as weapons of war yet they are not banned. Let us hope that other nations of merit (such as China) can audit the code committed to the kernel for their own goods and for ours.
But it’s fine that Red Hat/IBM is literally a US defense contractor that knowingly participates in crimes against humanity.
Plus the other thousand examples of how Linux, or any western tech, are the product of empire.
Like, is the reason for this just the fact that they’re Russian? If so, what exactly does this accomplish? Is it just
It accomplishes people moving out of Linux to open and anti-imperialist software.
Does anyone know of alternatives or if the people going out, and others, intend to fork it?
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Linux is used/developed by NATO, DoD, intel/Israel, Mossad, Google and other imperialist entities. There’s most likely NSA/CIA/Mossad backdoors in the kernel. They’re probably not collecting data from every Linux user, but I am sure that if they wanted to, they could gain access to a Linux/android box.
This is why you shouldn’t do anything “sensitiv” on your computer. Use full disk encryption if you can, otherwise Tails booted off of a USB stick on public wifi.
What the imperialist entities have put in linux until now, or the vulnerabilities they found but didn’t disclose to anyone, isn’t even as much of a problem as what they will likely do now that they are removing the people most likely to be against allowing linux to be used against its users.
Net/Free/OpenBSD are alternatives to Linux if that’s what you mean
I haven’t checked out the state of HURD in a while but possibly that as well
I haven’t checked out the state of HURD in a while but possibly that as well
A couple months ago they released an aarch64 port of GNU Hurd and there seem to be at least a couple people working on it.
McCarthy would be proud to see his legacy alive and well.
I can’t say I am surprised, but a bit disappointed.
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I saw that earlier and was going to post it here when I got back to my computer. Absolutely depressing. But if the comments at Phoronix were anything to go by, this isn’t going over well. Hopefully sanity will prevail.
it always gives me pause to see well known kernel maintainers take such seemingly knee jerk reactions.
when a someone like a script kiddie does it, it doesn’t matter; but I wonder when a kernel maintainer does it, i have to wonder why and i think i’m afraid to learn that the impetus and thought process for both are the same.
One good thing about the last 3 years is that it has made me stop putting people on a pedestal and imagining them as more “advanced”.
At the end of the day we’re all just slophogs
Yeah, we need to stop doing that. I’m so sick of coders that act like they’re big brain geniuses because society put their profession on a pedestal for the last decade or so
Something i have learned in life, much to my own dismay, is that a lot of people that are very smart, and very good at specific things are really insanely reactionary. I think it comes from them spending so much time on that one thing that they just kind of dont even put any brain power towards politics or the state of the world and just catch some CNN here and there and go ok ya thats 100% true time to get back to arguing about boot loaders or whatever.
Like i bet the people who made this decision are rn thinking to themselves “Wait im confused the news said Russia was bad and my close circle of lib friends thought this was a good idea why is everyone mad?”
This has been 100% my experience as well. Most of the really good coders I’ve met are the types that also do it as a hobby outside work and also are reactionary/turbolib empire bootlickers. Literally regurgitating MSM slop and thinking they understand societal problems because they’ve read an op-ed in Bloomberg about why we need AI to fix the economy rather or something like that.
I think it comes from them spending so much time on that one thing that they just kind of dont even put any brain power towards politics or the state of the world
I’d also add to that the fact that this one thing they focus on has often been put on a pedestal (like coding for instance), which gets to many of them and makes them overestimate their abilities in other areas (“society says coders are smart, I’m a coder, I make good money, maybe I really am better than others, even at other things too” - an attitude I’ve encountered quite a few times).
Programmers, the senior ones who can court good money with relative ease at least, are gonna tend to be pretty well off, which I’m sure is part of it. For them, the concept of “skills gud, pay gud too, something something meritocracy vibes” pretty much applies (even if the reasons it works for them are probably not what they think) and afaik they don’t even have to fight for it with unions much of the time because the demand is high enough and the number of people at their skill level low enough. Entry level seems to be a much different story, having become saturated with all the bootcamp code stuff and “learn to code” rhetoric and such. But like, there’s stuff where it runs on some old programming language that virtually nobody learns or actively uses anymore, so knowing it could give you a lot of leverage.
The moment these types of people were faced with hardship in employment and wages, I’m confident many of them would start questioning a lot of things they never thought much about before. But as long as they are a relatively comfy class in high demand, much of the class struggle can fly under the radar for them and through that, much of the rhetoric that might persuade them to think about imperialism as well.
Yup. It’s haute labor aristocracy. Or was, maybe it’s down a peg nowadays. And usually all STEM, no humanities. No class consciousness. Petit bourgeois stock options aspirations.
By all rights I should be an insufferable turbolib.
The treats are eroding nowadays, though, so they’re likely to get angrier. Maybe a few will develop class consciousness.
By all rights I should be an insufferable turbolib.
Well I’m very glad that you’re not. :D
when a someone like a script kiddie does it, it doesn’t matter; but I wonder when a kernel maintainer does it
