Social network Reddit recently began blocking mobile visitors to its website while pushing them to download the official Reddit app, and it's fair to say that the move is not going down well with users. If you visit reddit.com on your iPhone today, you may see a new popup that can't be dismissed, asking you to "get the app to keep using Reddit".
    • Rioting Pacifist@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      16 days ago

      Not just of reddit but also for some reason Google (at least for me) often recommends <search term> reddit and ranks reddit posts quite highly, so this enshitifies google too.

      Google’s demise due to socialmedia walled gardens was kind of understandable, but their decision to lean into Reddit and make themselves extra vulnerable to the whims of a corporation they don’t own, is entirely in them.

      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.todayEnglish
        1·
        15 days ago

        i think you have reddit and googles position reversed, reddit is pretty much dependant on google almost entirely, they put thier search bar on the top, allows reddit to use its v3 captch3 to catch “bots/ban” , and then thier sudden appearance of using AI to moderate the site.

        • Rioting Pacifist@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          15 days ago

          When I search for something I often get suggestions for “search term” reddit.

          Google have chosen to send people to reddit If reddit make those results unusable that a big fuck up.

      • k0e3@lemmy.caEnglish
        13·
        15 days ago

        I’m pretty of the other 25% who came here because we got banned for saying something that offended someone’s feefees. I honestly couldn’t be happier.

  • Arrandee@lemmy.worldEnglish
    98·
    16 days ago

    Maybe its too on the nose to say so on Lemmy, but fuck Reddit right in the earhole. Their pearl-clutching, risk-averse, pro-corporate moderation-bot and tattle-tale system was the last straw.

  • searabbit@piefed.socialEnglish
    63·
    16 days ago

    “These users are already familiar with Reddit and we’ve seen that the experience is much better for them in the app. The app offers a more personalized experience and users can more easily find communities that match their interests.”

    Lmao. The personalization is exactly what I don’t want, so fuck off. Also, it’s pretty easy to circumvent. I’m sure there’s multiple ways, but I just go to old reddit.

    • BigBrownDog@lemmy.worlddeleted by creatorEnglish
      31·
      16 days ago

      “Here’s a bunch of lies. We are going to track the fuck out of your dumb ass.”

    • JimmyMcGill@lemmy.worldEnglish
      16·
      15 days ago

      They’ll kill old Reddit eventually

      And then the site will effectively die

      I wouldn’t mind if they did it soon tbf. That way I would find other ways to pass the time at work

    • Syrc@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      15 days ago

      Oh I love personalization. When I am the one doing it and not an algorithm doing what it “thinks” is better for me.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
      74·
      16 days ago

      Why do you still go back to it?

      Like,every valid reasons (there’s lots) to not use it, doesnt matter on the amount of use. Engaging with it or not is the deciding factor.

      So I’m genuinely curious why you just reduced usage

      • cattywampas@lemmy.worldEnglish
        51·
        16 days ago

        Because there is an actual user base for niche interests. Lemmy is great but doesn’t have nearly enough users to support communities for a lot of topics.

        In fact you don’t even have to get too niche to find that a topic is non-existent on lemmy. Sports for example.

        • ell1e@leminal.spaceEnglish
          9·
          16 days ago

          Lemmy is great and that’s the only place I’m posting.

          But yeah, if I’m looking for a past conversation on a niche topic, I’ll probably find something to read on reddit.

        • billbasher@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          15 days ago

          I had to go back to get Pokémon Fire Ash working on my R36 emulator. That was literally the only place I could find any information and I still had to do a bunch of debugging after getting the starting point. Then I interacted helping another set of people stuck at the same spot. Only found it through startpage, not Reddits search

      • shneancy@lemmy.worldEnglish
        51·
        16 days ago

        the problem with reddit is that it used to be amazing, and is still the best place to ask questions (though with the number of bots this is slowly becoming less and less true).

        i still vividly remember the time when i spent 2 weeks messaging microsoft support that insisted that i need to replace the device i just bought, even though i repeatedly told them the device works fine with a different machine so something must be wrong with my PC. so i got frustrated and asked the same question on reddit, within a few hours someone diagnosed exactly what was wrong, and gave me tips on how to fix it (or well, in that case i needed to walk around the issue rather than fix it)

        and even now whenever i look up tech issues the first results that actually have thought behind the words (instead of sponsorships for whatever driver updating software company bought the article) it’s usually on reddit

        it’s such a shame it’s been aggressively going down hill, it could’ve truly stayed the front page of the internet for decades. all it had to do was not get worse for the user

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
          32·
          16 days ago

          If you have a question, ask it on lemmy then…

          The first people asking on reddit couldn’t just look up an old thread. And they may have waited days for an answer.

          But someone answered, and then everyone else with that we just had to search. And the knowledge spread.

          If you just search reddit…

          You do understand how that’s not helping anything, right?

          Like, you could even just make a post here and post the solution you found too. But the only way to fix your complaint is asking questions on lemmy…

          • WesternInfidels@feddit.onlineEnglish
            3·
            16 days ago

            Do Lemmy threads ever show up on search engines (the way Reddit threads do)? I don’t think I’ve ever had Google or DDG point me toward any fediverse thread or post.

            To be perfectly clear, “Make fedi better for the future by hopping aboard and contributing today” is fine, I don’t object to that. But is that envisioned future, where a search for “Why doesn’t my [X] work with my [Y]” points to the fediverse, even possible in principle? I genuinely do not know the answer.

          • shneancy@lemmy.worldEnglish
            31·
            16 days ago

            yeah man but when i have an issue i want a solution to that problem, i’m not thinking about the engagement strategies of social media environments

            • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
              13·
              16 days ago

              yeah man but when i have an issue i want a solution to that problem

              I understand that and even explained what someone like that would do ahead of time…

              you could even just make a post here and post the solution you found too

              After you find the answer, you could make a post about the issue and the fix. Preserving that knowledge on Lemmy. If others do that as well, then eventually it will have a base of knowledge.

              Which means more people coming here for answers, more people viewing those communities, answering and asking new questions.

              Like, if you’re just lazy and don’t want to contribute anything, cool…

              But why bother arguing about this?

              Why is this more important to you?

              • shneancy@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                15 days ago

                man, imagine calling people lazy for not wanting to do double the work just so a social media platform has more content

                why don’t you start archiving all tech issues from reddit since you have so much free time?

      • teslekova@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        14 days ago

        Lots of subcultures I care about exist only on Reddit. Queer ones, crafting ones, comics, art, science, etc. So when I got banned, it was a bit of a kick in the gut. Lemmy does not have the breadth of content yet, but it does have the queer, and importantly, the ability to talk politics again that I did not have any more on Reddit.

      • Victor@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        15 days ago

        Surely there are better sources? What kinda kinks you got? Lots of furry shit?

          • Victor@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            15 days ago

            They blocked NSFW content for users who aren’t logged in last I checked. Still the case? I refuse to test it by visiting their cancer site.

            • stylusmobilus@aussie.zoneEnglish
              2·
              15 days ago

              No idea. When I got booted, I deleted my account and haven’t been back other than random internet searches.

              I have enough personal experiences I can draw on for rubbing one out. What was really good were the OF people dropping their enticers for people to sign up. They’re good at what they do, the porn is realistic.

              • Victor@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                15 days ago

                Same, I sometime go to redgifs if the wife isn’t up to it, and the content there is quite good but you gotta dig for it in the niches. The front page is filled almost entirely with immediate full frontal dildo fucking with ahegao and I’m so fucking not into that.

                I need buildup, some romance, some passion. Otherwise it’s boring.

                • stylusmobilus@aussie.zoneEnglish
                  2·
                  14 days ago

                  Reality is important to me with it. This contrived created stuff you see with professional work, its just not real.

            • FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.worldEnglish
              21·
              15 days ago

              They’ve fucked the interface with redgifs for countries that require age verification

              I’m verified, because I’m a content creator, but reddit doesn’t recognise it

              They’ll probably fix it quickly given how heavily they rely on porn traffic

    • badgermurphy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      15 days ago

      Digg died because Reddit existed when they started enshittifying. I think Reddit needs a mainstream competitor before it will just drop dead. Until then it will shamble around like a zombie with a bunch of AI powered bots arguing where its brain should be.

        • badgermurphy@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          14 days ago

          Their moderation policy, unfortunately, turned them into a sewer. I’m pretty sure that hurt them a lot. I get what they were trying to do, but if you don’t kick out the Nazis when you see them, soon you’re “the Nazi place”.

          • ArchsageRamases@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            14 days ago

            Yeah but they had real free speech unlike places like X/twitter. Gab has free speech but if your not “right winge christion” you get ignored and or attacked.

  • diplomatic_immunity@lemmy.zipEnglish
    41·
    15 days ago

    I hate reddit. They blocked all of my accounts for no reason. And they’re so vague explaining why, and when I tried to appeal, the whole site crashed. Literally joined Lemmy yesterday.

    • borQue@lemmy.zipEnglish
      14·
      15 days ago

      Welcome. Yeah Reddit is an evil forum. Blocked me too when I was doing an ANTI racist statement. Apparently the moderhater thought I was racist, block for life, appeal never helped. I think they cannot read properly.

      • dltk@lemmy.worldEnglish
        10·
        15 days ago

        16 year old reddit account. I got a 3 day suspension for “harassment” for telling the mods of a joe rogan sub that their sub is full of “losers”. I was completely censoring myself by being so soft in my critique. Evidently right wing snowflakes are big fans of cancel culture. Deleted the app & here I am!

        • brave_lemmywinks@lemmy.worldEnglish
          5·
          15 days ago

          Guess we are all here. I also had a 10+ year account and the last few months started getting bans for relatively tame views, most of them taken out of context and then I finally got perma banned.

          Scrubbed and deleted all my comments with a Firefox extension and deleted my account. If many of us very active users do this, I believe it can make a dent in their content.

          • dltk@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            15 days ago

            I need to learn more about what’s OK on federated platforms like lemmy, but Im interested in creating a mirror bot that clones all the posts on Reddit. Just a one-way mirror to help boost content depth. Maybe it would be best to create a dedicated lemmy server for that purpose.

            • forestbeasts@pawb.socialEnglish
              1·
              14 days ago

              That already exists, it’s called the “lemmit” bot, and it absolutely floods the ‘all’ timeline if you try sorting by latest. It’s an annoying pain.

              – Frost

      • mimavox@piefed.socialEnglish
        2·
        7 days ago

        I got permabanned for threatening violence bc I wished a missile strike on Putin. As if I was planning to do that.

      • diplomatic_immunity@lemmy.zipEnglish
        31·
        15 days ago

        Thank you! That’s crazy man. Man i hate it so much, you can get banned for literally anything, with no solid reason and explanation. It really is evil. Built a niche news subreddit from the ground up and it was doing good, with about 100 members in 2-3 months. Lost it. I was moderating another bigger subreddit aswell, made it grow and better, all for nothing.

        • borQue@lemmy.zipEnglish
          1·
          7 days ago

          That’s very sad to hear. Good thing you can ventilate it here. Maybe one day there will be enough angry ex users and they’ll remove all bans.

    • Abyssian@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      15 days ago

      I used Reddit since near it’s start, never banned until recently. Apparently saying that public officials who betray their country and the will of the people should be burned at the stake is me making threats. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

    • Regrettable_incident@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      15 days ago

      Lol I quit reddit a couple of years ago when they did the API thing. Recently went on there cos I was googling some game stuff that led me there - and I found that the account that was logged in had been banned. I hadn’t commented or voted out even really been there for 2 years and somewhere in that time I earned a ban, somehow. Gotta laugh.

    • treesartlife@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      15 days ago

      I used reddit for about 4 years. I couldn’t stand it anymore, the bots, the bans for no proper reason. A lot of people recommended Lemmy, but I was reluctant to start using it at first. Glad I finally made it here

      • MagicShel@lemmy.zipEnglish
        2·
        15 days ago

        Glad to have you. Honestly, I think the smaller community makes it better. Even if there is no unending firehose of memes and shitposts here. You can run out.

  • Lexam@lemmy.worldEnglish
    38·
    16 days ago

    I expect another migration from reddit to lemmy. I’m not saying we are going to explode, but expect some new people in the next few weeks.

    • BigBrownDog@lemmy.worlddeleted by creatorEnglish
      4·
      16 days ago

      There’s not a lot of people here and I expect it to stay that way. I do not foresee the Fediverse growing that much, but I could be wrong.

    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.todayEnglish
      1·
      15 days ago

      i dont see a large migration like with last year, it was only due to them purging so many users. reddit realized that they PURGED way too much which would just make the bots obvious, and lower engagment, i think they step off the pedal a bit, but still shadowbanning people though. they just arnt doing straight up bans(which notifies the users)

  • morto@piefed.socialEnglish
    34·
    16 days ago

    Next, they will stop allowing to register with random email without confirmation

    Edit: jut found out they already did it lol. Then next step will be to require phone number for all new accounts

    • TheMuffinMan@piefed.worldEnglish
      5·
      16 days ago

      I haven’t been able to post to reddit in years now, because I refuse to browse it without a VPN, and while it still lets me in, any account that I make immediately gets shadowbanned as soon as I make a post or a comment.

      I can’t tell if it’s because their bot filter is just terribly implemented, or because they don’t want me on their platform if I don’t surrender my public IP address.

      I’m pretty sure they just use a “how many different accounts under the same public IP” type of logic, because even if I create an account on a 4G network (no VPN) and post, this happens. Cellular networks often use double NAT (unique internal/carrier IP, shared public IP) to avoid allocating a public IP to each mobile device.

      I’ve given up a long time ago. My only exposure to reddit now is when a search results page links me to a post. The most helpful stuff is usually from a decade ago or earlier.

    • oldwoodenship@lemmus.orgEnglish
      41·
      15 days ago

      I left when my last account got banned because I suggested a way for dealing with billionaires may or may not include removing their head from the rest of their body.

    • dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      7·
      15 days ago

      But will there be enough to counterract the people who just use the app? That’s the real question. No one doubts a move like this increases fediverse people. So did the API scurfuffle, yet people still regularly complain about the fediverse being unpopulated.

      I’ve been on fedi since 2015—over a decade. I know it’s gotten bigger. Yet, every year, for 10 years straight, are people who complain about how small the userbase is. I don’t see this at all changing that.