• chocrates@piefed.world
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    9 days ago

    I think you are right, but regardless of the anti free market bullshit they are trying, deepseek is going to eat their lunch.

    Even if the deepseek frontier model is 12 months behind anthropic, it will be “good enough” soon and cost pennies.

    I get the fear of “china bad” for maybe the us government applications, but the us government and corporations are already stealing our data so I don’t really fear the Chinese government at a personal level, in Louisiana

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        The “CCP” didn’t catch up with and surpass the US market in electric vehicles, Chinese engineers and industrialists did. BYD, Xiaomi, Zeekr, Great Wall, etc. etc. etc. are not branches of government. I mean sure, government industrial policy was there, but it was there in the USA as well (and is a huge proportion of Kaptain Ketamine’s “personal” wealth). It’s just that American companies are addicted now to government protectionism and forgot how to compete by price, by innovation, etc. while BYD was inventing world-class battery technology and vertical integration (that is for some reason anathema to American business practice).

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          The People’s Liberation Army directs huge amounts of industrial development, just like the Pentagon does in the US, and probably equally corruptly.

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            Thats a stupid argument, if you’re making it as a point “USA companies are not influenced by USA government and don’t suck its dick”.

            Oracle, Microsoft, Amazon, Google are large companies known to be regulated by the USA government and to spy on its behalf (e. g. Cloud act, PRISM). Add communications like Verizon and AT&T for domestic (bulk data handovers, see Snowden).

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            Same as Texaco and Reagan, Raytheon and Bush, SpaceX and Trump.

            Do you think the world doesn’t see the corruption in all the above?

            For the record I would rather Merica and China fight to the death so the rest of the world can get a break.

            And leave your hands away from Cuba and Taiwan.

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            9 days ago

            You understand that the very use of “CCP” pretty much marks you as someone completely and utterly ignorant of anything other than Faux News and US government propaganda, right?

            How 'bout you come back with this fancy thing called “evidence” of Huawei’s “connection” to the Chinese government that—and this is the important bit here, Sparky!—can’t be equivalently applied to almost every major US firm vis a vis the US government? (Hint: this is not possible. American companies are as balls-deep in American government trade policy and even military/espionage hooks as Chinese firms are in Chinese government trade and military/espionage policy.)