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Paul McCartney’s official Reddit account seems to have been banned. The account, u/paulmccartney, had just dropped a set of photos and videos from the first night of his shows at the Fonda Theatre. It went straight into the r/PaulMcCartney subreddit. Then, not long after, the whole thing disappeared.
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How does that biowaste bin fire still have users who can read and write?
Reddit has a lot of established local community subreddits, and when you are that established, its hard to give up.
Disclaimer: I was just banned on a second account after being found out for my first ban (I said some things with, well, lets say “high praxis”) and I am not happy about it.
I was banned for prohibited content on my “other accounts.”
I only have one account. (Appeal was denied, and I suspect the entire operation was done by bots. It literally said, “go look at your other accounts to see what you did wrong.”)
Meanwhile, another user over there is advocating violence against a very well known public figure (I’m sure you can guess what and who), and the comment is still up and the poster is not banned. -throws up hands-
i got first permabanned by a mod from r/news for commenting “when a terrorist hides in a school full of children it is not ok to blow up the school with the children still in it” under an article about IDF doing just that while hunting for some hamas fighters (no warning, no previous infractions, straight permaban, reason: “you broke the community rules” - no further explanation). it hurt a bit cause i did not participate in any political discussions normally. but shortly after that there was a picture of WW2 nazi flag on someone’s front yard in ohio and people started suggesting that someone should bring a veteran to this person to explain them the error of their ways. i didn’t resist and responded that this person knows exactly what they are doing and they do it cause there are no consequences to it. i also wrote that somebody should “tar and feather them and chase them around” - after which my account got restricted cause “we are trying to create a community where everyone can feel safe and therefore we cannot tolerate calls for violence against others”.
I got banned for keeping it too real. 😎
yea its definitely bot/AI moderation on reddit, reddit wont scale back this, due to them having less work to appeal to all those bans.
All also you know the ban is done by a AI/bot is if gives a generic message like “your other accounts violated,this or that” instead of the ban telling which community you got banned in.
reddit doesnt go after propaganda bots, as far as ive observed they target only the ones they cant benefit from(OF accounts, people who connect thier posts thier business".
and right wing propaganda is quite lucrative right now.
Are you bwhind a cg-nat? That might explain why they might claim that
LOL I don’t even know what that is 😄
I’m guessing this public figure is someone with…questionable involvement in current affairs, or is not aligned with Conservative interests?
Yep checks out.
He sits in a big gold office in a big white house.
I too am a refugee from Reddit.
Do we refer to ourselves as Lemmings now?
Because there are still a lot of content creators, especially in the technology field.If the process of sharing code and projects and receiving feedback took place on another platform, nobody would use Reddit.That’s my only reason.
The other night I was watching John Stewart and he made an interesting comment. He said that reddit only recently became usable because it was too gross before. Insane especially from him
reddit got worst with all the AI/botting spamming, and reddit banning people, why does he think it got better ?
That whole API shitshow didn’t help…
Jon liked the censorship.
probably has due with being critical of israel no doubt, i notice he acted very strangely when people started to critcized israel.
whoever has the most users has most of the users. until they decide they don’t have any users, they will continue to have this true statement be correct constantly
Your pictures are welcome here, Paul!
That moderator should be un-moderated.
The whole platform should cease to exist.
Yes, I’ve been getting very bad vibes from that place for a while now. It seems very filtered and the content is no longer reflective of what people upvote. It’s tracking more to corporate interests and propaganda. Also, I think a lot of people have unintentionally divulged their most private information and don’t even know it. Their innermost thought expressed in comments, likes dislikes cataloged in votes, all under the false sense of an anonymity. It would be very easy, especially now with AI, to link IPs, browser thumbprints, and writing style analysis back to individual people, at a mass scale. I think a reckoning is coming.
Is Paul on Lemmy yet?
reddit says he wasn’t banned but temporarily restricted during a password reset requirement, which showed him as banned due to a reddit bug
that bug has been ongoing since last year, it resulted in a ton of bans. one of my last accounts during the purge has the “password request” the first time he freed up my account from “ban” and then a 2nd time it shadowbanned me. something tells me its somewhat intentional to cull the numbers on reddit.
I kinda want Section 230 to be revoked so the dam can break on “wrongful ban” class actions.
You are only allowed to post Goat Head Smoothie on Reddit
I got banned from a bunch of Reddit subs for once telling someone they were wrong about the Yorkshire accent in the UK. They called me a liar about being British and then I got banned from like 30 places at once.
I got a “permanent suspension” from all of Reddit. Isn’t a suspension temporary, wouldn’t a permanent suspension just be a ban?
Maybe it’s the difference between undoable or not undoable.
If you think about it, when a judge gives you a “suspended sentence” for a crime, it is permanently suspended meaning there is no set expiry. But it can be made to expire if needed.
That tracks. You pissed off someone who had a connection with a mod and/or admin. Been there!
I got banned once for dunking on IG travel trends and the mod involved was dumb enough to PM me threatening me.
It’s just pathetic how emotional and over reactive people saying crap on the internet they don’t like. I don’t agree with a lot of stuff but I see no reason to censor people for enjoying musicals or whatever else I hate.
I once got banned in a bunch of subs, including some I wasn’t even in, because a mod didn’t like a comment I made in a sub that wasn’t even theirs. They just didn’t like it, so they banned me in all the subs they modded. Fucking weirdos.
Reading this post is cathartic hahaha.
Considering all mods are probably mirrors of antiwork mod the entire world got to see - zero surprises there.
You see, I never had a single comment moderated by the anti-work people, and I made a lot, a lot of them very extreme comments. Like illegally so. But many other subs I have had that same problem. I used to use revveddit to see which Subs were secretly silencing me, which included pics, and so many others. Mostly Auto mod bullshit I presume. Auto mod which I trust is corrupted by the government for Israel and a number of other issues.
Referring more to physical looks and lifestyle of the head mod there.
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I think it’s the direct mention of the user that the c/technology mods didn’t like, which I can understand. You might be better off removing it from your comment.
Plenty of .ml related moderators on other groups as well that will ban users on lemmy as well because of .ml bs.
Is the trick to simply not care?
Yes that happens, for some reason that user actively goes to FuckAI and bans people who posted there. I can only assume that they see disdain for AI as a personal slight.
Yeah so the AI haters have doxxed them, posted their photos on Lemmy, and harassed them non stop.
But you got banned, that’s rough buddy.
I have no idea what you’re talking about.
It’s pretty straightforward, they’ve been targeted and doxxed and harassed by anti ai trolls on Lemmy. You probably downvoted some posts in their comms, contributing to this and got banned.
If it’s a comm that doesn’t interest you, why are you even going on about it a month later to shit talk the user?
why are you even going on about it a month later to shit talk the user?
Why did I mention something relevant to the conversation? That’s your question?
You could have easily done so without directly linking them. That adds nothing except pushing your vendetta and directing more harassment at them.
I don’t have a vendetta. I’m entirely ignorant of the context you’re describing. I got blanket banned from a series of communities by aforementioned user for (presumably) downvoting. I’m not really very interested in continuing this.
Two wrongs don’t make a right
I got a sitewide warning a couple of months ago for suggesting that Trump’s inaugural “board of peace” meeting was the apotheosis of the “you have one bullet…” thought experiment. “After reviewing, we found that you broke Rule 1 because you threatened violence or physical harm.” I’ll wager Trump’s secret service guys were absolutely shitting themselves when they read it, so it’s probably for the best they took it down tbf.
On the bright side, it was the kick up the backside that was needed to get me to try Lemmy, and I hardly use Reddit at all now.
I replaced every one of my comments and posts with lorem ipsum before I terminated my accounts.
I got banned from one of the UK subreddits when someone posted a lengthy comment about why Brexit was amazing, and I responded that Brexit was idiotic. I got banned for “being political” and the person I was responding to didn’t lol.
Sounds like you were a dick and didn’t realize and doubled down. No way to tell now.
What a bold and insulting statement to make with absolutely no information to back it up.
Based on how you tell the story.
It’s a reasonable scenario for the result and your interpretation of it.
Sounds like you were a dick and didn’t realize and doubled down…
I realized I was a bit off base. Seems like you took it to heart.
People really ought to read who they are replying to.
I got banned from about 15 subreddits I never even knew existed once by calling out a transphobic dogwhistle, and when I inquired about the bans, the mods insinuated I was a child molester and neo-nazi.
Reddit mods don’t need to follow any sort of logic.
And confidently asserting someone is a dick because they got banned from a subreddit is hilarious, and should probably prompt some self-reflection.
There sure are cases of injust behavior by power tripping mods. That being said just presuming guilt and malice is unfair to the volunteers taking care of reddit today.
But its okay to presume guilt and malice of the person commenting here?
“Taking care of reddit”
lol fuck reddit
The appropriate way to take care of Reddit is to shut it down, sell all its assets and donate the proceeds to blind dogs, imprison every paid member of staff, put their families into foster homes (if any of them aren’t incels), bulldoze their dwellings, salt their fields, and systematically delete anything online that they ever uploaded.
Then dunk the shareholders’ heads one by one in a bucket of horse piss, duration of dunking in proportion to the number of shares held.
I know it’s milder than they deserve, but you gotta start somewhere.
You could have just not typed anything and everything and everyone would have been better off for it.
I once got banned from some weird parenting subreddit I’d never visited because I said cheeseburgers aren’t kosher, some mods are just freaking weird (or bots.)
So, in conclusion, Reddit banned McCartney for posting images from his own concert in his own subreddit? Wild…
Turns out it was copyright infringement! Who knew? /s
Even nobility is subject to royalty.
Reddit will ban you for even the mildest of takes. Their AI admin is draconian in metering out bans. The platform seems to really want to get rid of all of the pesky humans still there and just be a safe space for bots.
I honestly don’t know how anyone stays on Reddit very long. They permaban people for ANYTHING these days. They abdicated their site to psychopathic, power-tripping mods.
Just for context, Ghislane Maxwell was a Reddit mod.
It’s not even worth lurking there. Every post is just five “original” comments, and then everything below those are people repeating the same five comments a hundred times.
That was a thing WAY before AI and bots tho…
Absolutely.
The new bots just add to the cacaphony of mindless comments.Weaponized reposting. Posts and connents. That was a thing before AI too. Remember, who was it, maybe POTATO_IN_MY_ANUS, who looked up super old reposts and cut n pasted the top scoring comment from them…
Oy vey…
Puns, so many puns…
And their bans really stick. If you piss them off enough, they connect every account you’ve ever had, somehow, and the ones they miss, if you log in it’s a matter of days before they catch on.
It’s kind of impressive, actually.
I know. When I got permabanned after 12 years and a million Karma, I started using a new account, and lasted about 3 months. After that, they tracked me down faster and faster. The last one permabanned me in minutes before I could post my first message. They got my number now, and it’s probably gotten even tighter with AI.
17 years, maybe 50 accounts, 1 major sub, tons of minor ones, sone of which I miss, fukn every time. You get psychotically drunk ONE TIME… And what do you get? Like we helped make that place for better or for worse.
lol
Fuckem.
I hear ya…
I was joking with a commenter, they said something like “oh, my mistake. Please don’t kill me” and I replied “haha too late, I’m already coming at you with scissors!” and I got a suspension for threatening someone.
Weird how my reddit use went down by 99% after that. I still have the account, I keep thinking maybe I’ll need it to ask a question or something… Probably wont. Might as well go delete it now lol
Yeah I miss asking super niche questions on certain subs, because there’s usually enough users to have a prompt reply.
But fediverse is growing, slowly. Sadly best way to keep growing it is to stay and promote it on Reddit, everyone who’s fed up for the same reasons we are are ripe for the plucking.
Comes with a bunch of idiots, of course, myself included so YMMV.
I promoted it on Digg. 😜
And the circle… Completes…
Or is it a spiral? I forget.
I got a site wide ban and all my alts were banned at the same time because I called someone who was shitting on Trans people “a disgusting piece of human garbage”. Apparently that was inciting hatred or violence and I can no longer make an account without it being banned within an hour or two.
To be fair if you mention trans at all you’re probably getting banned and get your name on a list.
Fuck me I guess. I’m Poly married to a trans person and have a trans gf. I guess that’s what got me.
Man you guys just can’t catch a break…
Probably not relevant to the topic at hand.
It’s pretty relevant. Who are you pulling all that weight for?
How is getting banned for the mildest takes relevant for posting a link to a drop box with concert images?
Are you actively ignoring the similarities between these instances or do you genuinely not understand that they’re both examples of strange and excessive moderation?
To me this seems like an auto mod fuck up that is quite reasonable and an embarrassing delay of manual review coupled with a classic dogpile.
“manual review” …
…rriiiiigghht…
There is zero benefit to banning celebrities and taking the fallout. Why would they? If they are profit driven they wouldn’t. Even if they were cartoonishly evil they only hurt themselves.
If it gets manually reviewed it’ll only be because this dogpile happened. Lots of people get banned like this with no recourse because they aren’t Paul McCartney
Probably true. Moderation and heavy handedness shouldnt go hand in hand. And permanent bans are stupid as people lose their legacy and incentive to be nice and constructive when losing their history.
The topic is reddit overzealously banning people. People commented with their experiences being banned by overzealous reddit mods and admins.
If you don’t like it, you can go somewhere else. That’s how the threadiverse works. You don’t have to be here if you don’t like the conversation, but you don’t get to tell people what not to post or comment.
If that’s how you want to be, go back to your beloved reddit where you can be a mod and ban people for stupid reasons. No one here will miss you.
It’s always interesting to see people commenting who don’t understand how reddit works. Which is fair - you can have an opinion. But knowing how it works makes a difference in how seriously I can take your opinion.
Mods on reddit cannot do a sitewide ban. They can ban you from one or more subreddits they moderate.
Admins do sitewide bans, which is what’s happened here, since you can see the profile has been banned.
And these days, with reddit’s shitty AI moderation, it probably means a ban done by AI.
Because this is not a normal person, someone will probably take a look at it and overturn it.
If you’re a regular joe, however, them taking a look at it even if you appeal is pretty damned rare. And as some have mentioned - things that trigger AI as a “threat of violence” that a normal human would easily see are not - doesn’t matter, AI bans. You get a warning, 24-hour, 3-day, 10-day, 30-day, then permanent. Unless there’s something that accellerates that.
As much as many people manage to survive without saying things AI picks up on, it’s damn easy to get unjustly banned, and it’s only gotten worse and worse over time.
Anyone in this thread talking about bans from mods is technically offtopic, except that reddit itself is also the topic, so that’s fine, but you should understand that a mod banning you is not similar to what happened here. :P
not anymore they dont, they have AI moderation to do the sitewide bans/shadowbans, there is no input from the admins themselves.
Yep, I got a site wide ban for wishing a missile strike on Putin. “Threat of violence”… as if it was something that I threatened to do :/
I got one for commenting on the France subreddit that it wasn’t surprising some people would carry justice by themselves if the police and courts do nothing. I wasn’t justifying, merely explaining. Subreddit ban, then permanent sitewide ban a few minutes later.
I once got a ban for quoting the current US president. Apparently when a random anonymous redditor says it, it’s “inciting violence,” but when the president says it, it’s “patriotic.”
I got several bans for the same kind of thing.
didn’t realize that clearly quoting somebody else’s words so they could be discussed was me saying and meaning those words myself
First time is got a temp ban was when I said it was a pity that the Butler shooter missed. When I was back, I told to the story of why I had been banned, and bam! Got banned again for quoting myself. Reddit is totally insane.
Did you send a missile strike?
And if not, WHY NOT
:)
Haha, I wish
My ban was because I replied to someone who wished Trump would succumb to his cheeseburger gods. I replied that instead I hope he strokes out and suffers.
I got a ban a few times for “advocating violence” or whatever when I said “I’m surprised there haven’t been more attacks on [whatever shitty group is harming people]”
no judgement on it. just saying that I’m surprised they’re haven’t been more.
Lmfao!
^ I can confirm this. It’s why I refuse to interact on Reddit anymore. Fuck em.
They have enough users that they don’t care that they could be banning long term users. It is ironic that they have their filters set so hypersensitive for the appearance of purity but I can find tons of hardcore porn on it.
or the fact that troll farms, palintir and israeli bots are very pervasive but almost never dealt with. Yet they are increasing thier sensitivity to non-propaganda bots.
Mods can trigger an automatism that leads to bans. Not in this case, but it is possible.
It’s funny how a lot of the complaints I’m reading here are about how Reddit is unfriendly toward left-leaning people but all the right wing people complain about how Reddit is a cesspool of liberal propaganda.
It just goes to show that the platform plays both sides just to promote hate and anger.
I visited after I got banned and the default posts that show up without logging in (therefore uncurated) were all so irritating that I had to assume they were all ragebait.
Reddit is hostile towards left-leaning people, and it is also a cesspool of liberal propaganda. Liberals fucking hate leftists, even more than they hate fascists, because liberalism is fundamentally pro-capitalism. That’s why the mainstream media is currently crashing out about people like Hasan Piker, who actually represent a growing base of support for socialism, and they run every possible smear they can.
I got banned for posting that Trump is a piece of shit. KTHXBAI!
From my perspective “liberal” is still right-wing.
Welcome to your own reality
More like the European reality.
Compared to Europe, America doesn’t have a left wing. Just a right wing and an extreme right wing.
"Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property, and equality before the law.[1][2] "
Which translates to:
- Lower taxes.
- Less welfare.
- Defunding public services in favour of private services.
- Less regulation/“smaller government”.
- More laws protecting acquisition and ownership.
In other words, all the basic right-wing talking points minus nationalism,religion, and “country first”.
Liberalism is fundamentally a right wing ideology, it’s primarily concerned about the freedom of markets, rather than the freedoms of people, and when it comes down to choosing between the rights of individuals and the interests of corporations, liberals will side with business interests, nearly every single time. Usually, they’ll always couch it in more progressive terms, like talking about jobs and economic growth. That’s why both mainstream Democrats and mainstream Republicans agree on most issues, because they’re both pro-business, pro-capitalist institutions.
So you can’t be pro human liberty anymore? That’s what being a liberal is to me. Corporations are not our friends and hate them as much as a leftist. In my mind, my and my peoples liberty trumps your idea of a perfect economic system. Whatever happens along the way to socialism or back to capitalism, human rights must come first. I don’t know why that concept is so hard for leftists to grasp. I think leftists are affected by a similar psyop that affects Republicans in this regard
Of course you can, but when people identify themselves or others as “liberal”, they’re not referring to individual liberty, they’re usually referring to “liberalism”, which does contain some elements of individual liberties, but far more importance is given to free market economics and free flow of capital, than it is to individual freedoms. That’s why corporations can invest anywhere and borders don’t pose much issue for them, whereas it is very hard and expensive for individuals to move to another country.
You’re talking about lasseiz fair liberalism. Billionaires and corps are not in any way shape or form “liberal” these days unless you want to talk about neoliberals who pretend to be altruistic. It’s all a psyop to divide the proletariat
No, I’m just talking about liberalism. You probably have some high-minded enlightenment-era ideals floating around in your head about what liberalism is, but I’m telling you, your ideas about how liberalism is about freedom, that’s the actual psyop to divide the proletariat you spoke of. Liberalism is functionally one big propaganda operation to replace monarchies with oligarchies.
I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. Moreover, you seem to be lumping a bunch of things together.
Are you American? I could blame that on the lack of a proper representative democracy. Everything gets shovelled together into either one camp or the other, even when they don’t have anything related to each other.
I know a great deal about what I’m talking about, but if you feel that I’m wrong about something in particular, I’d be happy to discuss it. I am not American.
“Wing” is not the term to use. Liberals sat on the left side of parliament, literally the left wing of a hall, so it’s accurate and quite literal to call them “left wing”. What isn’t accurate is calling them leftist, as in socialist, and I think that’s the term everyone is actually talking about? Everyone is talking past each other here cause of the wing thing.
Well… The “wing” of a parliament very roughly represents a political compass. Liberals aren’t left-wing anymore by virtue of having more politically left parties that occupy those physical seats today.
It does create a very funny situation like here in Denmark where “Venstre” (literally The Danish word for “Left”) is a right-wing political party. More right-wing than “Liberale Alliance” (Danish Liberal Party).
But Venstre used to be the left-wing party when it formed. Since then, green parties, socialist parties, communist parties, and various parties adjacent to those ideologies, have formed to occupy the left side of the parliament seats, pushing Venstre’s physical seating position all the way to the right side.
With liberals and moderates being more politically left than them, Venstre now sits right next to the most conservative parties of Denmark. They’re still keeping the name, though.
yea just like other social media platforms, they allow astroturfing thats why its both sides getting triggered.
It’s because the platform is full of people who can’t handle someone not agreeing with them, so anyone who says they’re wrong is immediately labelled as the enemy.
Worse, they allow these same people into power while the real owners of the site make money out of the inhumanoids overrunning the whole system.
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Reddit is a cesspool of liberal
Liberals are not left wing
Ok, whatever. The point was that they have fun seeing us bicker over shit for their profit.
But the right doesn’t know that.
Yes they are. Liberal covers a wide range of ideology. The liberal versus leftists debate is a Russian pysop
The American use of political terms like liberal and socialist are warped from their original meanings.
Both can mean supporting healthcare for everyone for example. Even though that’s neither a policy following from the theory of liberalism, nor is socialized healthcare dependent on following socialism.
The same is true for progressivism and leftists. All of these terms are often used interchangeably to the previous two.
There’s a deep lack of nuance and specificity.
Actual Marxist leftists and democratic liberals are ideologically opposed to another in many ways. In the US they might agree on better healthcare for everyone and waving rainbow flags. Liberals should be for free markets, (regulated) capitalism, freedoms, etc. A leftist should be opposed to all of these. Freedom to a Marxist means something else than to a liberal.
Nowadays a lot of political discourse across the spectrum is deeply rooted in identity, creating division, virtue signaling, moralist preaching, etc.
Discussion on specific politics and details is often cut short by the above campism and clinging to identities.
This applies to the right and the left equally.
Lmao I feel the same. Literally feels like rage bait. Like these people are so freaking ignorant. It doesn’t help a lot of Reddit posts are just bots recirculating old content.
hopefully he moves to the threadiverse, though it is unlikely.
Mastodon would be a reasonable goal.
Why limit to one aspect? Mastodon (announcements) + Pixelfed (photos of the concerts) + Lemmy/PieFed (fan discussion) + PeerTube (videos of the concerts) + Loops (shorts about the concerts and announcements) + …
Imagine the hundreds of fans that could be reached!
You kid but it literally starts this way. Imagine if someone like Paul McCartney says, “I’m moving over to mastodon and you should too.”
He starts to share exclusive content there, sharing videos on loops…
People will stop going to other places.
But the content has to come first.
Why depend on someone else’s mood when it’s your business? Videos on Youtube, fanpage on Reddit or Facebook, short videos on TikTok, news on X, … : they can pull the plug whenever they like.
With the Fediverse you can create a personal instance only for your business.
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Looks like the account is reinstated. Good to know that’s how to reach human support there: be Literally Paul McCartney.
The posts are gone, though. I hope this was the decision of McCartney or his team. Reddit doesn’t deserve him.
celebrity accounts have special priveleges from getting banned arbitrarily. Sinese is another celeb that has been posting his usual propaganda, how convenient for the guy to suddenly show up just before the election and posting military ganda. and shortly after that how he “left hollywood for his son” and not because he came out a REPUBLICAN shill(subtley) that would derailed his career in hollywood anyways.
My first post, after getting reinstated, would be to tell reddit to go fuck themselves
Macca should buy Reddit, fire spez, and along with him, every single power-mad agenda-driven mod. Then sell it and make a profit.
I know we’d like a Good Guy With Money™ to swoop in and rescue various corners of the internet, but I think Sir Paul has other things to do.
McDonalds?
I just want to say that I know people who have known Paul for many years, and every single one of them have nothing but good things to say about him. He knows people want to catch him doing jerk behavior, so he bends over backwards to be polite and respectful to EVERYBODY. He’s a Righteous Dude.
Unfortunately my first association is the “Glass Walls” ad that was hammered into my brain hundreds of times before I learned to block them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTifP6idBPs
No, Paul, do you think slaughterhouse employees are even more likely to be vegetarian? Good intentions, but so infuriating.
I’m a carnivore, but I respect reasonable vegetarian/vegans. I’ll take a rock star taking a stand like that over Lars attacking music fans because they love music too much.
I remember a study from a few decades ago that said pirates are often spending MORE on media than non-pirates, because they’re able to branch out and experiment with more media, then buy the media, instead of sticking to what they know and just buying the same old shit. I don’t know how to explain it. But pirates tend to spend more than non-pirates, allegedly. I’ll try to find the study.
found something already: https://www.vice.com/en/article/study-again-shows-pirates-tend-to-be-the-biggest-buyers-of-legal-content/
Thats exactly what happened back in the “Home taping is killing music” era of the 80s. The record companies were insisting on high taxes on blank tapes, which they wanted to collect to compensate for lost revenue on mix tapes and such.
So they funded a study to prove their case, and the study found that those who did the most taping were also the ones who bought the most music. These people loved music so much that after they spent most of their disposable money on albums, they spent the remainder on blank tapes to get even more music.
Home tapers turned out to be the strongest music fans, and biggest customers, and unsurprisingly, they discovered the same thing decades later with downloaders.
That kind of kills their rationalizations for the draconian punishments they were demanding.
I was always partial to:
MC LARS - Download This Song https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VBkuiChImb8
Totally agreed.
Lars? Lars Ulrich of Metallica fame? Why would he get mad over fans liking music? When did this happen? The Napster case, while bullshit, at least had something of a leg to stand on but this is just absurd.
I was referring to the Napster case, where Lars fully cemented his reputation as a complete dickhead.
Wow, it was tough to watch that whole video. I hope things have improved since then, although I’m sure in a lot of places they haven’t.
Eat less meat and if you do eat meat, pay extra for pasture raised animal products.
Some things get better, others get worse. It’s never a bad day to give up animal products.
If you’d like to donate to a group that’s fighting for these animals check out thehumaneleague.org.
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