If you don’t respect the bootloader, you don’t get a seat at the table.
There’s a chance I’d still have a windows install alongside Linux, if windows would just mind its own business.
Windows modified my partition layout after a forced update. I felt violated…
I was setting up some template VMs on a fresh Proxmox VE (VM server) yesterday. Total install and troubleshooting times for each template were as follows;
- Linux Mint Debian Edition - 20 minutes
- Windows 10 IOT LTSC - 3 hours
- Windows 11 IOT LTSV - 6 hours, with the benefit of lessons learned from the Win 10 install.
The amount of obscure configs I had to dig up just to get them going was disgusting. Also, why the fuck are so many drivers not in Win10/11 by default, yet Linux has no issue including them all at a fraction of the ISO size?
Well you see, if there are fewer drivers included there is more room for user friendly features, such as persistent ai intrusion. You probably also gonna update them anyway, might as well download fresh 😇
Don’t worry windows. You may be back as a small virtual machine for some obscure rarely used reason.
Just got my printer working so even my virtual Windows can go away now 🥳
Library, or print at work.
Seriously, library printing is underrated.
My local library lets me print up to 80 pages per week, completely free.
Sadly, I’ll be doing the same because the software I need to configure my mouse, keyboard, and controllers don’t support linux. They run in wine, but they can’t see the peripherals.
I use WinBoat for work. Easy to set up and does what I need. I definitely prefer this over setting up a VM manually.
Setting up a vm is a trivial task for me. I’ll take a look at winboat though
Namely: running software.
(JK JK I swear I’ll switch as soon as I’m not fighting abject poverty and can afford a hard drive, internet, etc.)
A pivotal moment in my life was when I first installed Linux to the entire hard disk instead of a separate partition.
I have done it a few times over the years but never on my main driver. Until last month… I bought a new laptop for my business and immediately installed Linux on the entire drive. I never initialized the win 11 that came with it.
So far I have had a few hiccups with getting some things working. I have also yet to find a basic WYSIWYG editor for my very basic HTML business webpage on Linux. So I am keeping my 6 year old laptop with win10 up and going on my desk for now.
I expected I’d have to go back at least once to transfer all my old files over.
Nope. Linux could read the windows partition and so i just moved them over with a drag and drop.
I did dual booting for a month just to make sure there wasn’t a single use case for windows left. Not ONE use case for me.
Just so ppl aren’t dissapointed Daws like ableton and fl studio don’t have support (Reaper and Bitwig do tho, some others too)
Visual programs like touch designer and resolume don’t work (seen workarounds but they have issues)
Davinci resolve may crash, it worked fine on arch but on bazzite it freezes my pc when loading projects
On the gaming side obv there are the games that won’t function without anticheat like wrc, iracing, f1, etc. No game pass ofc.
I still wouldn’t swap back to windows and I barely use it, maybe once a month if I really want to use something not on Linux.
Main downside is lack of piracy. Houdinifx should work fine on linux natively, but lacks a crack. So even if the paid software does work, if you pirate to use this stuff as a hobby than you’ll have to swap to something like Blender/Inkscape that is free and works on linux. Only crack I’ve found was for Davinci Resolve.
Linux has plenty of free and capable alternatives for paid software, I like that it has me using Foss more. Went from learning Houdini + Davinci to just sticking with Blender for my hobby visuals, not mad about it, prefer that I was forced to focus on one.
Just so ppl aren’t dissapointed Daws like ableton and fl studio don’t have support (Reaper and Bitwig do tho, some others too)
And while Bitwig runs great, there’s a much smaller selection of Linux-compatible third-party plugins. I didn’t have any luck with compatibility layers, so I switched my complete plugin stack when I switched to Linux. I’m relatively ascetic when it comes to plugins so its fine, but lots of people won’t be willing to work like that.
Davinci resolve may crash, it worked fine on arch but on bazzite it freezes my pc when loading projects
I guess it’s weirdly picky about distros for some reason?
Personally, I’ve been using it on Ubuntu just fine with absolutely no issues. But I’ve heard of other people on other distros saying they could never get it to run.
Went from learning Houdini + Davinci to just sticking with Blender for my hobby visuals, not mad about it, prefer that I was forced to focus on one.
Yeah … though I still have Davinci Resolve, Kdenlive is actually my go-to video editor. It’s not quite as full-featured as full-on Davinci Resolve … but it feels simpler to use and more intuitive to me, and it’s got all the features I need for my basic stuff. Kdenlive is some good shit.
just sticking with Blender
And, actually, I’ve had linux-related issues with that. Not in Blender itself, but if you use any plugins, you might have issues. A lot of the people out there making Blender plugins are apparently not concerned at all about linux compatibility, so some Blender plugins don’t work in linux.
I did it for almost a year. Went back over once just to get files I missed moving the first time.
I remember when I was dualbooting Windows and Linux. The year was 2006 and many devices needed special drivers that were closed sourced and available only for Windows. Laptop cameras, WiFi, memory card readers… Linux would run on most laptops but many things still didn’t work right. Similar thing with some software. You would buy a smart watch or something and it would require running some weird Windows only app to set it up. We’re so lucky those strange times are behind us now.
You would buy a smart watch or something and it would require running some weird Windows only app to set it up.
Unfortunately still the case for most BIOS updaters, RGB/cooling setups, and proprietary HID stuff. You need Windows for anything beyond the basics.
most BIOS updaters
I’ve had to RMA plenty of otherwise perfectly usable motherboards because Windows had fucked up their firmware with unprompted updates, bordering on zero-click malware behaviour. The farther that shit stays from Linux, the better.
Not really. Plenty of hardware to choose from today. Yes, it’s possible that some random RGB/cooling setup will not work with Linux but you can easily find one that will. 20 years ago it was possible that the one device with Linux drivers what too expensive or didn’t have the features you needed.
I haven’t really messed with it since installing it on a PS3 so the growth combined with MS bullshit is compelling to bring me back
For the noobs to Linux, heed the words of your endlers: don’t dual boot. The operating systems have a way of killing each other’s bootloaders. It might even run fine for a while, but then one day there will be an update and one OS will be unbootable. Not worth the risk as a noob. If you’re really worried you might need a Windows program, then just run a Windows VM within Linux. If you want to keep the option for gaming, then you could dual boot, but don’t do it on a work critical machine.
Dual boot is fine, you just need to choose some good options.
Method 1: Most recommended. use Refined as your boot loader and two drives, not partitions. This is the easiest, safest, and frankly nicest way to deal with this. At boot, before either system starts you get a nice graphical interface to choose which OS to go into.
Method 2: Partition style. Disable window fast startup. Disable windows hibernation (never hibernate windows before going into linux). Use UEFI and GPT no legacy methods. Don’t encrpyt windows with bitlocker.
That said, my desktop and traveling laptop have been windows free for years, I have no need for it, and your advice is the safest way overall. A vm in linux with virtualmanager works very well.
The operating systems have a way of killing each other’s bootloaders.
Windows has a way of killing Linux bootloaders.
I’ve never heard of it happening the other way around.
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Eh. When ditching W10, I did install on a separate partition; I have one piece of software that I knew would be troublesome.
Then one day I needed space, and just nuked windows. Didn’t boot it in months anyway.
I have a separate drive for windows. I’ve heard tales of how windows can simply break or eat Linux partitions or something. It’s only there so I can run games that won’t run on Linux.
It would wipe the boot loader, might still do that it’s been a long time size I dual booted, and from what I remember would get massively confused if it couldn’t boot in to windows during one of its update/reboot x3 cycles.
Also would eat kittens given half a chance
i think it’s in fact possible to install windows on btrfs or linux on ntfs… and have them on one partition.
Both of these sound like terrible ideas
they are indeed lmao
Ew…
I thought about dual booting on my PC when I built it like a year ago, but after reading about pros and cons a little bit I just said nah I’m good, let’s do this, Linux. When my wife recently got a used computer from her sister, they didn’t give us the login password, so instead of calling them and asking I just put my flash drive in there and said bye bye windows. My favorite part about installing Linux is how fast it is. I don’t have to sit and click through a 20-step installation wizard where every step takes 20 minutes to do whatever it’s doing.
My first ever Linux install, I just went for it. I backed up my media, played around in the live environment for 5 minutes or so, then I wiped the drive and installed. No dual boot, no VM, just bare metal. That was 10 years ago, and I have never looked back.
I’m dualbooting Linux. Mostly because I’m in the process of switching distros and I’ve been dragging my feet for a long time.
Make the plunge my friend, u could dual lot TWO Linuxi instead ;)
That’s what I’m saying, I’m dualbooting Ubuntu and Debian! I’ve been Windows-free for years.
Oh my bad, swag!! I’m diving head first now, and have been reading a bit about BSD? I’ve heard cool things but also some… weird(?) things too, do u know anything about that?
Nope! I heard that some people really like BSD, but I’ve never looked into it.
I have Win10 IOT installed in VirtualBox, but I haven’t booted it in almost a year. I don’t have any use for it, that Linux can’t handle.
I got curious last week with how windows is now and decided to just spin up a copy on an extra 250gb ssd I had. I had a windows 11 usb stick so I just installed it. big mistake. during the MANY updates post install it decided to “upgrade” the bios on my thinkpad and now the volume controls (up, down, mute) are “backwards”. I had to go into the bios to set the F1 thru 12 keys to enable without the use of the FN key to be able to use the FN key with them. it’s so stupid.
Also thank god when I installed windows I used a throw away email to setup the account because it immediately got spammed with microsoft emails.
Never again.
