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    Unpopular opinion: It wasn’t as bad as Americans are making it out to be.

    Why I say that? The loss of life during the pandemic exceeded a 9/11 worth of excess deaths every day and America was doing fuck all about it and arguing about masks. I think more people are broken up about it because it was a highly visible target and showed that America could be vulnerable.

    What I will say is that I’m more pissed that it completely eroded our privacy and made casual racism more visible.

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      The difference always is, 9/11 was done to them. Covid they did to themselves.

      We’ll kill our own, but it thats our right and ain’t nobody gonna take it from us.

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    Anyone saying the “America deserved 9/11” was a joke is also stupid. It wasn’t a joke.

    It was a “edgy” streamer way of talking about the very real and consequential blowback that is caused by America’s Imperialism.

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      I remember a lot of conversations that went like

      “Why did they do 9/11”

      “They hate our freedom!”

      “That’s… it? There’s got to be more to it than that”

      “Shut up it’s too soon to talk about that stuff”

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        Ironically, if you think the US literally bombed its own citizens and covered it up; the conservatives are ok with that. Well, only in the 9/11 case. Not when it’s black wall street. They just don’t talk about that.

        If you use hyperbolic language when discussing the war crimes that American troops committed in East Asia and explain how that comes back to hurt people in the US. Well, that’s just supporting terrorism.

        The full clip of Hasan is literally in that context. He was covering the war crimes of the US. It’s why it’s cut so fucking short. It’s actually hard to find the full context anymore. It’s such an old clip. He was watching Dan Crenshaw on Joe Rogan. There was reason his response was emotional. Dan Crenshaw just justifying the presence of American troops in the US that literally lead to 9/11. The guy is saying “we need to do the thing that caused 9/11 to prevent 9/11”. It’s infuriating levels of stupidity.

        https://youtu.be/MIWrmgPNUqQ?t=521

        It was likely this part of the video. Because he’s talking about 9/11.

        Hasan wasn’t banned for saying it either. He was banned that same night for saying something about Dan Crenshaw getting eyehole fucked in Iraq. 2019 was an interesting time.

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          If you use hyperbolic language when discussing the war crimes that American troops committed in East Asia and explain how that comes back to hurt people in the US. Well, that’s just supporting terrorism.

          What portion of US adults are familiar with the My Lai Massacre, would you guess?

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    I feel like people around my age and younger, people who were either too young to remember it or weren’t even born yet, tend to make what could be seen as disrespectful jokes about 9/11 since we literally have no connection.

    Hell, the only connection I have was being alive in a completely different part of the country. No family back east that far north and nobody we knew either in NY at the time. So I find it so much easier to make jokes about it. Also doesn’t matter how much I was told about it growing up, I just thought of it as another day off from school; another 3 day weekend for kid me.

    It does suck that a lot of innocent people died, but what can you do besides move on? Especially if you never had any stakes in what occurred.